ROYAL
NAVAL DIVISION MEMORIAL PLAQUES
CH/19835 Pte.
Frank Alfred James LAWDAY R.M.L.I.
1st Royal Marine Battalion, R.N.D.
Missing, assumed killed in action, 13th November 1916.
Thiepval Memorial (MR 21)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
8/4/15 age 17 ; Embarked RM Brigade 16/2/16 (per HMT "Olympic" &
arrived Mudros 24/2/16), joined 1st RM Bn. at Stavros 28/2/16-13/11/16 DD.
b.Dover, Kent 3/5/1897 ; Mother, Florence, 248 Lower Rd., Rotherhithe, London
SE8 ; ADM/171 = St.V.B. issued to Universal Legatee.
Tyneside
Z/2109 AB Robert Harrison LEGG MM R.N.V.R.
Anson Battalion, R.N.D.
Died of wounds at 10.20pm in Highfield Military Hospital, Liverpool, 14th
May 1917.
(GSW left buttock 28/4/17)
Choppington (St. Paul) Churchyard, Bedlingtonshire (Northumberland
28)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
27/11/14 ; Collingwood Bn. 'C' Company 2nd Platoon 4/3/15, transferred to
Anson Bn. 8/6/15-28/4/17 wounded, Invalided to UK 5/5/17. Awarded MM 26/5/17
(London Gazette 9/7/17 page 6832).
A Miner ; b.16/8/1896 ; Next-of-Kin & home address: Parents, Clement &
Mary Florence Legg, of 1 Blackburn's Buildings, Choppington Station, Northumberland.
Tyneside
Z/8168 AB Edward LISHMAN R.N.V.R.
'D' Company, Nelson Battalion, R.N.D.
Missing, assumed killed in action, 23rd April 1917.
Arras Memorial (MR 20)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
6/11/15 ; Draft for BEF 25/7/16, joined Nelson Bn. 27/11/16-3/2/17 to hospital,
rejoined Nelson Bn. 9/2/17-23/4/17 DD.
A Glass Blower ; b.10/10/1896 ; Next-of-Kin & home address: Sister, Mrs.
Liza Liddel, 43 Lesbury St., Lemington-on-Tyne (CWGC gives "son of Thomas
& Emma Lishman" of the same address). ; ADM/171 = V.B. issued to
Brother.
Deal/4197/S
Pte. Charles LITTLER R.M.
150th (R.N.) Field Ambulance, Royal Marines Medical Unit, R.N.D.
Died of wounds in 2nd Corps Main Dressing Station, Belgium, 4th November 1917.
(Shell wound right arm, Compound Fracture & right knee
penetrating).
Duhallow Advanced Dressing Station Cemetery, Ypres (B 20)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
24/11/15 age 23 years 3 months ; Draft for BEF 16/3/17, attached 3rd Stationary
Hospital Rouen for duty 14/4/17, posted to 3rd (RN) Field Ambulance 2/5/17-4/11/17
DD.
Father, Jonathan, 38 Penkhull New Rd., Stoke-on-Trent ; ADM/171 = V.B. issued
to Universal Legatee.
PO/16773
Pte. William LIVERMORE R.M.L.I.
2nd Royal Marine Battalion, R.N.D.
Killed in action, 26th October 1917.
Tyne Cot Memorial (MR 30)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
Southampton 21/2/13 ; Embarked RM Brigade 9/5/15, joined Portsmouth Bn. at
Cape Helles 30/5/15-19/2/17 GSW Contusions to Back, Invalided to UK ; 2nd
RM Bn. Draft for BEF 16/6/17.
ADM/171 = St.V.B. issued to Father ; A Billiard Marker ; b.Poole, Dorset 15/6/1894
; Son of James & Mary Livermore, of 39 Lagland St., Poole, Dorset.
London
Z/120 A/LS(AB) Lord Gerald MARDEN R.N.V.R.
'A' Company, Nelson Battalion, R.N.D.
Died of wounds in 44th CCS, 14th November 1916.
(Gassed 13/11/16)
Puchevillers British Cemetery (FR 74)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
4/9/14 ; Nelson Bn. A/889 22/10/14-13/7/15 GSW right arm, rejoined Nelson
Bn. 22/12/15-13/11/16 Gassed. 'A' Company (see statement for demise of London
Z/20 AB S.A. Roberts, Nelson Bn. DD 13/7/15).
A Bank Clerk ; b.24/12/1892 ; Next-of-Kin & home address: Father, A.J.,
27 York Rd., Southend-on-Sea. ; ADM/171 = St.V.B. issued to Widow.
PO/17248
Pte. William James MARLOW R.M.L.I.
Portsmouth Battalion, R.N.D.
Killed in action, 20th July 1915.
Helles Memorial (MR 4)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
Southampton 22/4/14 ; Portsmouth Bn. at Dunkirk 19/9/14-13/10/14 (1914 Star
Roll = Service at Antwerp) ; MEF 28/2/15-20/7/15 DD.
True name William James Marlow ; Birth Cert. gives "William James Marlow,
born Malthouse Lane, Aldershot 21/2/1896, father, Alfred Marlow, a Forage
Contractor's Agent, mother, Ellen Marlow (formerly Smith)" ; Bronze Memorial
plaque reads: "William James Marlow" ; 1901 Census = 40 St. Michaels
Rd., Aldershot, Alfred Marlow (Head) age 38 Forage Contractor's Agent, Ellen
Marlow (wife) age 38, Alfred Marlow (son) age 15 Forage Contractor's Clerk,
Ellen (daughter) age 13, Alice Marlow (daughter) age 11, Robert Marlow (son)
age 7, Edward Marlow (son) age 6, James Marlow (son) age 4, Elizabeth Marlow
(daughter) age 3 ; Enlisted as James William Marlow, a Butcher's Assistant,
born Aldershot, Hants. 21/2/1897(true date 1896) ; Next-of-Kin: Parents, Alfred
& Ellen Marlow, 8 Wild Meath Villas, Newport Rd., Aldershot ; 1914 Star
issued to father, Mr. Alfred Marlow, 16/7/19, V.B. issued to Father IC/7393/15.
The CWGC record this man as "James William Marlow". This plaque was at first suspected to be an error. There is no man named "William James Marlow" on the CWGC, but there is a "James William Marlow". Further investigations show that he was born 21/2/1896 as "William James Marlow" but on the 1901 Census was named as "James Marlow". He enlisted in April 1914 as "James William Marlow" & gave his date of birth as 21/2/1897.
Again, the birth certificate is thought to have provided the datum for the plaque naming & again the Next-of-kin appear to have chosen not to correct the CWGC Record nor return details for the Helles Memorial Register.
The Marriner Brothers
PO/18240
Pte. Percy MARRINER
R.M.L.I.
2nd Royal Marine Battalion, R.N.D.
Missing, later reported died of wounds, 28th April 1917.
Arras Memorial (MR 20)
PO/18241 Pte. Romeo Frank MARRINER
R.M.L.I.
2nd Royal Marine Battalion, R.N.D.
Wounded & Missing, assumed died of wounds, 13th
November 1916.
Thiepval Memorial (MR 21)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:-
(Percy) Enlisted Southampton 2/12/14 ; Embarked RM Brigade 24/6/15, joined
Portsmouth Bn. MEF(Dardanelles) 18/7/15.
Elder brother of PO/18241 Private Romeo Frank Marriner, 2nd RM Bn. DOW 13/11/16
; A Farm Labourer ; b.Fair Oak, Basingstoke, Hants. 13/7/1893 ; Next-of-Kin(1914):
Father, A.D., Thatch Cottage, Pilcot, Nr. Odiham, Hants., later (1919), Mother,
Frances H., Oakbank, Brewery Cottages, Sulhamstead, Theale, Berks., later
of (1924) Hill Corner, Crookham Common, Newbury, Berks.
(Romeo)
Enlisted Southampton 2/12/14 ; Embarked RM Brigade 24/6/15, joined Portsmouth
Bn. MEF(Dardanelles) 18/7/15.
Younger brother of PO/18240 Private Percy Marriner, 2nd RM Bn. DOW 28/4/17
; A Farm Labourer ; b.Fair Oak, Basingstoke, Hants. 24/7/1895 ; Next-of-Kin(1914):
Father, A.D., Thatch Cottage, Pilcot, Nr. Odiham, Hants., later (1919), Mother,
Frances H., Oakbank, Brewery Cottages, Sulhamstead, Theale, Berks., later
of (1924) Hill Corner, Crookham Common, Newbury, Berks.
Percy & Romeo Marriner both volunteered to join the Royal Marines in Southampton 1st December 1914. The elder brother, Percy, was born at Fair Oak, near Basingstoke, Hants. 13/7/1893 ; Romeo was also born at Fair Oak 24/7/1895. They both gave their Next-of-kin as their father, Albert D. Marriner, Thatch Cottages, Pilcot, Nr. Odiham, Hants.
The brothers returned to Southampton 2nd December 1914 & enlisted for 12 years service in the R.M.L.I. They were allocated consecutive service numbers (PO/18240 Percy & PO/18241 Romeo), & were then despatched to the Recruit Depot at Deal in Kent to begin their training, both joining "A" Company. On 26th of May 1915 they were both transferred to "F" Company at the Portsmouth R.M.L.I. Barracks for further infantry training & both passed as 1st Class shots in Musketry 19/6/15. On June 24th the brothers embarked for the R.N.D. at Gallipoli, both joining the Portsmouth Battalion at Cape Helles 18th July 1915.
At this point service information for them virtually dries up, thanks to past negligence of keepers of the Portsmouth R.M.L.I. service papers. Unlike the Chatham & Plymouth R.M.L.I. service papers (which are stored at the Fleet Air Arm Museum in Yeovilton & are very complete & filed in their original service number order) the Portsmouth R.M.L.I. service papers are stored in the ADM/157 class at the National Archives (PRO), are incomplete & resorted into year of discharge/surname order. It is unknown who was responsible for the "weeding" of the Portsmouth papers, nor their resorting into year of discharge/surname order, but the plain fact is they are severely dunuded of useful "active service" information, & the resorting was rather poorly completed, many papers being misfiled & many more being missing (e.g. there is no ADM/157 reference for surnames "G" in 1918).
As
a result of the above misfortune which befell the Portsmouth papers, I am
unable to find out anything about the active service careers of either brother.
The two items required (Army Form B.103 & RND Card Index) are missing
from both brothers' papers (they are missing from 90% of all Portsmouth papers).
Without these forms nothing can be found about an individual's movements,
sickness, UK Leave or postings whilst serving with the R.N.D.
Therefore, it is unknown if either brother went sick at Gallipoli or were removed to Mudros, Malta or Egypt, but it is highly likely that one or both were sick at Gallipoli at some time. The same applies to their service with the BEF, no record of movements, sickness etc. Without this information it is impossible to tell if they were present with their battalion at a particular battle.
What is known from the sources remaining, is that both brothers were transferred to 'A' Company of the 2nd Royal Marine Battalion after the amalgamation with Plymouth Battalion in late July 1915 ; neither appear to have been wounded at any time ; both served at Stavros, Salonika 22/2/16-15/4/16 & both sailed aboard the HMT "Briton" from Mudros to Marseilles to join the BEF 7/5/16. Only one scrap of information was found for their BEF service, in the 2nd (RN) Field Ambulance admission books at the National Archives (Class MH/106), which lists Percy Marriner as serving with 'A' Company of the 2nd RM Bn., admitted suffering from Pyrexia 15/10/16 & sent to the Casualty Rest Station on the same date. It is therefore quite possible that Percy did not rejoin his brother before the attack at Beaucourt 13/11/16. Romeo was listing as "Wounded & Missing" 13/11/16 & assumed dead in July 1917. By that time Percy was dead too, he was reported "Died of Wounds" at Gavrelle, Arras 28/4/17.
In March 1919 Mrs. Frances H. Marriner wrote to the RM Records & appears to have superceded their father as the next-of-kin, although no trace can be found of Mr. Albert D. Marriner's death 1914-19. Mrs. Marriner gave her address as "Oakbank, Brewery Cottages, Sulhamstead, Theale, Berks." It was to her that the medals & plaques were despatched, one set of medals arriving in 1924 to another address at "Hill Corner, Crookham Common, Newbury, Berks."
(1) Being rather short of information, I would appreciate any information, photos, & if they are named on any War Memorials in the Fair Oak, Pilcot, Sulhamstead, Theale, or Crookham Common area.
(2) The 1901
Census lists the Marriner family residing at Ford Farm Yard, Theale, Berks.
Albert Marriner, Head, Corman on Farm, age 31.
Frances H. Marriner, Wife, age 27.
Percival Marriner, Son, age 7.
Rames K. Marriner (sic),
Son, age 5.
Barbara E. Marriner, Daughter, age 3.
Dorothy E. Marriner, Daughter, age 8 months.
Margaret L. Marriner, Daughter, age 8 months.
Edith E. Cummings, Visitor, age 23.
Henry J. Cummings, Visitor, age 1.
Clyde Z/4741
AB John McCREDDEN R.N.V.R.
Drake Battalion, R.N.D.
Died of wounds at 9.45pm in 47th General Hospital Le Tréport (GSW right
knee), 24th August 1918.
Mont Huon Military Cemetery, Le Tréport (FR 13)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
28/5/15 ; Draft for MEF 5/10/15, joined Drake Bn. 21/10/15-6/11/15 Dysentery,
rejoined Drake Bn. 2/12/15-9/11/16 Influenza, rejoined Drake Bn. 2/12/16-27/3/18
joined RND Depot Bn. (Straggler from Line), rejoined Drake Bn. 3/4/18-24/8/18
DD.
CWGC = age 24 ; An Iron-moulder ; b.24/9/1895 ; Next-of-Kin & home address:
Grandmother, Mrs. Pender, Lock 11, Camelon, Falkirk. His Memorial scroll (issued
in 1922) was addressed to:- Mrs. G.W. McC. Slater, Victoria Place, Camelon.
; ADM/171 = St.V.B. - not issued/claimed "DD 24/8/18".
Tyneside Z/5813
AB Allan McDOUGALL R.N.V.R.
'B' Company, Drake Battalion, R.N.D.
Missing, assumed killed in action, 4th September 1918.
Vis-en-Artois Memorial (MR 16)
Note the mis-spelt forename.
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
8/7/15 ; Draft for MEF (Bomber) 5/12/15, joined Drake Bn. 10/1/16-24/12/16
to Divisional Laundry, to 188th Labour Company 27/2/17, rejoined Drake Bn.
17/3/17-23/4/17 GSW right hand, rejoined Drake Bn. 23/6/17-14/3/18 Scabies,
rejoined Drake Bn. 17/6/18-4/9/18 DD.
A Rivet-Heater
; b.15/2/1896 ; Next-of-Kin & home address: Father, Alexander, 36 Bolam
St., South Byker, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
Bristol
Z/4642 AB Lewis MOORE R.N.V.R.
Anson Battalion, R.N.D.
Died of wounds at 4.30am in Liverpool Merchants Mobile Hospital Etaples (6th
British Red Cross Hospital) 8th May 1917.
(GSW Thorax 28/4/17)
Etaples Military Cemetery (FR 40)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Enlisted
15/11/15 ; Draft for BEF 10/7/16, posted to Anson Bn. from Base Depot Etaples
21/8/16-28/4/17 wounded.
A Shoe-hand ; b.19/12/1896 ; Next-of-Kin & home address: Father, Lewis,
11 Stanley St., Barwell, Hinckley.
R/1077
AB Robert John MUNNS R.N.V.R.
2nd Royal Marine Battalion, R.N.D.
Missing, assumed killed in action 22nd March 1918.
Arras Memorial (MR 20)
RND
Roll of Honour gives:- Attested
7/4/16 ; Mobilised 10/4/17 ; Draft for BEF 26/6/17, joined Howe Bn. 20/8/17-11/2/18
attached 2nd RM Bn. ; Posted missing between 22-27/3/18. CWGC
has no record of his attachment to the 2nd Royal Marine Bn. & incorrectly
record
him under his former unit of "Howe Battalion". CWGC also have incorrect
date of death as 27/3/18.
20/9/18 PM List 510. Paybook forwarded by Pay Office of a Sanitary Unit without
further details. Doubtful whether dead. Next-of-Kin informed ; 24/9/18 Paybook
received from German Military Authorities. Passed to Staff Paymaster i/c RNVR
Exped. Force ; 23/12/20 N.P.II/3237/20. Buried on the road to Bus, south sortie
of Bertincourt. Reported by San Comp. 603 (German Sanitary Company 603) ;
[It would appear that AB Munns first went missing on the 22nd March, during
the retreat from Cambrai. On the 22nd the 2nd RM Bn. were withdrawing from
the area around where AB Munns was later reported buried. It seems highly
likely that his body was found by an advancing German Sanitary Unit &
buried on the road to Bus, south exit of Bertincourt.] ; b.Sandy, Beds. 7/4/1898
; Next-of-Kin & home address: Father, Albert, Gamlingay, Cambridge ; A
Farm Labourer. ; ADM/171 = V.B. issued to Father.